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[MUSIC]
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Have a wonderful first full day,
we're so excited you're here.
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I'd like to welcome up our first
speaker of the day, Rhia Dixon.
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Kansas City native Rhia is a software
engineer at a global brand
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experience agency, where she
creates software applications for
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clients using React, Python, AWS,
and a variety of other technology.
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Rhia has immersed herself in the KC tech
community by volunteering as a mentor,
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ambassador, and
former diversity inclusion director for
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Kansas City women in technology,
a nonprofit who is dedicated to
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empowering women and
girls to pursue careers in technology.
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Please give her a very warm
Treehouse festival welcome.
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>> Hi, everyone.
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Good to see you, I'm glad to be here.
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Thank you very much for that warm
welcome Ryan, I really appreciate it.
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And let's go ahead and get started.
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We're getting started with taming
the imposter within also known as
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fighting imposter syndrome.
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I'm Rhia as you've heard,
native of Kansas City proud supporter of
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the Kansas City Chiefs Super Bowl
champs for 2020.
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I'm a software engineer at BML Y&R and
I do a number of things.
1:21
One thing that has been super
awesome to do starting with them was
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developing a chatbot that uses Alexa and
Google Assistant.
1:34
So I'm having fun on that project,
1:38
looking forward to whatever
the next project is gonna be.
1:40
I am also an advocate for
the DNI especially in the tech space,
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because there are not enough women,
there are not enough people of color.
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And those of us that are there
sometimes experienced
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varying levels of equity and inclusivity.
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So I'm really a champion of that.
2:02
I also consider myself a tech connector,
2:05
I know quite a few people in
the Kansas City tech scene.
2:07
And if you connect with me on LinkedIn,
and happened to see that I'm connected to
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somebody that is somewhere
where you would like to be,
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please feel free to reach out for me.
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I'm a mom of two,
2:19
it's been interesting trying to do this
whole working at home during the pandemic,
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while also being an assistant preschool
teacher and preschool students,
2:25
because while my son is in preschool that
means I too I'm in preschool same times.
2:30
And I have a new baby,
she's seven months, and
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I'm also a wrangler of imposter syndrome.
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It affects me more than I
would like to admit, but
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I think that I've gotten pretty
good at stomping it down sometimes.
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So getting to the thick of things,
what is imposter syndrome?
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Is it something that you've heard of?
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Is it something that people
just kind of whisper about?
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Well, Merriam Webster actually
has a definition for it.
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It is a psychological condition that
is characterized by persistent doubt
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concerning one's abilities or
accomplishments accompanied by the fear of
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being exposed as a fraud despite
evidence of one's ongoing success.
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This definition, I mean,
it's really wordy, but
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it definitely encompasses
everything about imposter syndrome.
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The fact that you feel like a fraud
even though there's no evidence that you
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actually are a fraud, and there's
evidence of you being quite successful.
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What is quite interesting about this
is that it happens to everybody.
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It affects you regardless of your
industry, regardless of your level of
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experience, whether you've been doing
this for two months, two years, 20 years.
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It doesn't matter if you're entry level,
mid level,
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C-suite executive, it can and
most likely will happen to you.
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It especially seems to be hitting people
in the tech space more frequently and
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I hear about it more often from
people that are in the tech space.
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Especially, people that are kind of
like me, I started through a boot camp,
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that's how I kicked off my tech career.
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And going through the boot camp,
I know I learned the things,
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I know that I accomplish these goals.
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I know that I did these projects, but
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I still didn't really feel like
I was a software developer,
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and I surely didn't feel worthy
of accepting any job offers.
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But what's wild about this is that
even though I felt that way coming
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straight out of boot camp, I feel that
way every time I go to a new job.
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Every time that I am assigned to
a new project, the feeling comes up,
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and just like that,
I feel like it is inevitable.
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You're gonna notice my theme.
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So story time.
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Let me tell you,
when I graduated from boot camp I was so
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excited, I graduated on my birthday.
5:05
My birthday is actually December 10th,
yesterday, so happy birthday to me.
5:08
And what I found about it was that
it was a really empowering time.
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I felt so accomplished, I was ready to
attack the world, and get my first job.
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And it was just amazing,
it was everything to me,
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this is how I feel even when
I'm starting a new job.
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But once you get there once I got there,
let's say I got to my first job.
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When I went through boot camp,
I learned React,
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I learned to node, and
it was a myrn stack.
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And my first tech job was a C-Sharp.net
shop, I didn't know anything
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about C-sharp or dotnet other than
the fact that it was a language.
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And I was kind of worried
because when they wanted me
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to start jumping in to the products and
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jumping into the corporate code base is so
massive.
6:08
That was literally my face looking
at the code base trying to figure
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out where things were, and then they
wanted me to handle my first task.
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Holy crap, y'all.
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C-Sharp and JavaScript are not the same,
and I did not know.
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Definitely my feeling was why did
they even hire me for this job?
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My gosh.
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All I know is JavaScript and
here I am trying to do a thing in C-Sharp.
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It was a whole debacle for me,
I definitely felt like I wasn't worthy,
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and felt like I was never going to get it.
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I felt like they were gonna find out
that I didn't know what I was doing, and
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that was gonna be the end
of my first tech job.
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It would be my first and only tech job,
but that is not the case.
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I had great people helping me out,
cheering me on.
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Next thing you know, even though I
wasn't sure if I was kicking the butt or
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if the butt was kicking me,
here I was doing things.
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And by the end of the year, I realized
I had done so much, even though so
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often through the year I felt like I
did not have a clue what was going on.
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So, these are some of the ways
that I have found that I contain
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my own imposter syndrome.
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Some of it is taken from other people
sharing their experiences with me, and
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some of it is what I have
tweeted to work for me.
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So some of you may have heard from other
people that have experienced imposter
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syndrome, some of it,
it may be brand new to you.
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But let's get started on these things.
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These are my top five
ways that I overcome it.
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First, I do a self retro.
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Self retrospectives can be done quarterly,
monthly, yearly.
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But the objective is to go over
what went well, what didn't, and
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what can be improved.
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Just like with Agile, the idea of a retro
is to be able to go over these things so
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that you can find areas of improvement
that you can implement immediately
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the next time around for your next
sprint or your next project phase.
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So for me, I would go over the things
that I did that went well.
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One thing that always goes well for
me is being able to Google expertly,
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my Google skills have gotten phenomenal.
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I'm able to narrow down things
almost within my first search.
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Things that didn't go so
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well my first time around was trying to
read the docs for different languages.
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I didn't know really how well to read the
docs, but I did find that I could improve
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upon that just by trying harder and making
the task kind of gamified for myself.
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Can I find out how to do this, and
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can I do it on my own in a little side,
small project?
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The other thing about the self retros
is that you're able to keep track of
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the skills and
lessons that you've learned.
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So I keep a running tally of
the languages that I've picked up,
9:08
the different ways to implement things.
9:13
Say for instance, at one of my previous
employers, I was working in Python and
9:15
Django had never done Django before.
9:20
But I now know how to implement
various things using Django and
9:22
create beautiful websites,
9:27
create awesome backend applications
that can automate things.
9:29
And keeping track of that in a little
notebook that lets me be able to reflect
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back upon that when it's time for
myself retro.
9:38
Another tool that I use
is I do challenges.
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So I think that it's cool for
you to challenge yourself when you can.
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Learn something new,
something that matters to you,
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something that you haven't done before.
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One thing that I tried to pick up, and
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it doesn't even have to
do with your tech job.
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It can be something.
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Obscured, so I wanted to learn
how to make jewelry at one point.
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And I went and did little tutorials,
I did classes and I applied that skill.
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I've also picked up other things where
I learned how to use Flexbox and Grid.
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Because mine does have primarily
been back end applications, so
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I kinda wanted to know a little bit
more about front end application.
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So I've added those two things like my
current portfolio, and my current website.
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I redid my current website and
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did it in Vanilla JavaScript just because
I don't get to practice JavaScript, or
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I didn't get to practice
JavaScript at my previous job.
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It was all backend Python.
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Another thing that you can try is
to take the coding challenges.
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I really liked the 30 days of code, the
100 days of code or 30 days of JavaScript
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projects, and you'll end up building
some really interesting things.
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Everybody can build the same
types of end user projects, so
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like a timer ,or a to do list,
or a stopwatch.
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But you can make it unique to yourself.
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Add weeks from things that you've
learned or things that you like.
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Like if you happen to like the library
that lets you do the disappearing typing,
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use that, incorporate that into one
of your code challenges as well.
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Another thing that will help you,
I say keep the receipts,
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basically what you're doing is you're
saving all of the emails, all of the notes
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from people that you received about
your work and how awesome you were.
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It was great working
with Don on this project.
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Because of these things, save those notes.
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Take a screenshot, snap it out,
put it in your little Dropbox.
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Let me save this for
me later folder, and use that.
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You're essentially building
yourself a brag book,
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keep track of the projects that
you've worked on and finished.
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If it was a project that you're able to
take a screenshot of one screen that's not
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going to reveal too much.
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Take a screenshot of that,
write a note about it, and
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put it in a place that you can
get to it later to look at.
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I like Dropbox.
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I also like my GitHub portfolio.
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Sometimes I add my projects and
I'll put my screenshots in the read me,
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if I if I'm able to.
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But I did do a project for
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a business where I couldn't share
the inner workings of it, but
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I was able to take a screenshot of
cleaned up screenshot of the code and
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use that too in my resume and
in my portfolio.
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Because I worked on that project I
was able to automate this task and
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save this business so much time.
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But keeping track of those things and
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why they were important is going to help
you in the future when you're trying
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to figure out why did I get hired at this
job, or why don't I know this thing?
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You have to go back and
be able to look at what you've done and
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see how far you've grown.
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See how much you've grown.
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Another great thing to do
is to love on yourself.
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Sometimes you got to hype yourself up,
do yourself affirmations,
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you are good at what you're doing.
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If you were not good at what you were
doing, if you're not good at this tech
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thing, you would not be working where you
are, you would not have gotten to where
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you are, you would not have
finished this awesome program.
13:17
Tell yourself, you're the best.
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Lizzo, tells herself all
the time that she's the best.
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Beyonce is also the best.
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But you can be the best
at what you're doing.
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Whether it's saying I'm the best or
I am good at this,
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I know how to do these things.
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Self-affirmations are strong.
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Another thing is talking to yourself.
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I say rubber ducks,
my rubber duck isn't actually a duck.
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My rubber duck is one of my son's dragons,
and I enjoy talking to the dragon.
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Helps me talk through problems that I'm
having especially when I'm stuck on
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something, take a break ,and come back
to it, talk to the dragon a little bit.
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And maybe it sounded silly at first,
but then all of a sudden,
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those gears start clicking as you're
getting those words out of your head and
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into the atmosphere, your problems
will start unlocking themselves.
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You can also sing your hype song,
my personal hype song,
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I like Electric Lady by Janelle Monae.
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If you have not heard Electric Lady by
Janelle Monae, please go and pick it up.
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That song has been my jam for
the past, I don't how many years now.
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And it never fails to pick me up.
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I'd use it before I go on to talk at
conferences, I use it when I'm stuck in
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a rut, and it helps to lift my spirits
about what it is that I'm doing.
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And then I can continue on.
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My last point about it
is to find your support.
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Everybody needs a team.
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You need to know who
your cheerleaders are.
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Know who they are, so that you can
call on them when you need them.
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I am somebody's cheerleader.
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I'm actually several people's cheerleader.
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But with your cheerleaders and
your support,
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you wanna share your victories no matter
how big or how small they were, whether or
14:58
not it was you finally, understand how an
asynchronous function in JavaScript works.
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You finally have unlocked
what the heck this is, and
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people should help you celebrate or
you should celebrate personally.
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I also think that you should
share your challenges.
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So if there's something that
you're struggling with,
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something that you're not quite getting,
it's okay to share that as well.
15:23
And when I say share, I mean you can
share it with your immediate circle.
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I like to share things on Twitter because
Twitter is a wealth of information.
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And whether you're going through
a challenge and need a pick me up, or
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you're going through a victory and
need a small celebration,
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Twitter is right there at your beck and
call.
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And I think that they're awesome.
15:45
Your peeps, they will get you back high,
they will be able to run back with you
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sharing your victories and sharing your
challenges, and sharing your growth.
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Then these people will be able to help
you as well to see that you are not
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the imposter that you feel
that you are at the time.
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I know that something that I go
over with my mentee's often,
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is when they're feeling like they're
in a rut, or they're feeling stuck, or
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they're down, I will,
run back to where they came from.
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Let's talk about what you look
like day one of boot camp.
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What did you know?
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What did you do?
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By the end of the boot camp,
you have a portfolio of projects.
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Look at those projects.
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And now, some of them have moved on to
their first or their second jobs now.
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And I always am reminding them to reflect
and look back at how far they've come,
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what all they've knocked out of the park,
regardless of how they're feeling today.
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This is still, the fact that
you feel like you're not doing
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it today doesn't mean that
you have not done it before.
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You clearly have been doing it.
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And if you weren't worthy of the position,
it wouldn't have been offered.
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If you weren't worthy of the success, you
would not have received that feedback and
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that praise.
16:52
So let's keep the positivity going.
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Always try to talk yourself up and
get that support in your pocket.
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So the too long didn't read
version of this talk, [LAUGH].
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My tips for finding imposter syndrome.
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Do a self-retro, do it every few months
just to evaluate what's gone well and
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what hasn't, see what you can change.
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Challenge yourself by learning and
applying the things.
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Don't just learn them and
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let them sit there.Try to figure out
how you can incorporate the new things.
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That gives you a tangible, visible,
17:26
example of something that you
have done and accomplished.
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And you need those hard reminders.
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Something that you can see or touch.
17:35
You need those reminders.
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So challenge yourself and do that.
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Keep a record of your projects and
feedback.
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Do a brag book, a brag book is something
where maybe it's a notebook or a folder.
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I have one for all of my conference
talks because if you were unsure,
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2018 I was not an international speaker.
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That feels like it happened overnight and
I started talking to conferences in 2019.
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And so I have a record of every single
conference that I've ever talked at,
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I kept all of my badges.
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So I can go back and look at it and
say, okay, yeah, I can do this,
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I've done this, I am this.
18:14
Keep your receipts,
be your own hype person.
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Sometimes you have to hype yourself up,
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because maybe your support team
is not there to do it for you.
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But you've gotta be able to talk
yourself up out of these holes.
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Sometimes it is very hard, you might need
the assistance of your favorite song.
18:30
You might need a self-affirmation or
you might just need a break.
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So take the break and
then come back to it.
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Find and lean on your support system.
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One of my main support systems has
been Kansas City Women and Technology.
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The ladies of that organization
have been phenomenal.
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They are a wealth of information.
18:51
They help you celebrate your wins.
18:53
They point you to various resources and
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awesome conferences like
Treehouse festival.
18:58
And they're just all great
people to be around as far as
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a positive space to talk about any issues.
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Those are my tips.
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That is it.
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And so feel free to connect with me.
19:15
I'm all over the Twitter as TheFakeRiRI,
because TheRealRiRi was taken.
19:17
And I'm also on LinkedIn as Rhia Dixon.
19:22
So now I would like to open it up.
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If there's anybody that has any questions,
please let me know, or
19:28
let the chat know, and I will get to them.
19:32
Let's see what I can find here.
19:38
All right, I see a question.
19:42
It says, how often do you
practice self-affirmations?
19:45
I honestly practice self-affirmations
daily, because it makes me feel good.
19:48
So when I get up,
I find that when I get up in the morning,
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that's my best time to do it because I'm
in the mirror, looking at myself, and
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I can talk to myself and say hey, girl.
20:03
You know what?
20:05
You're awesome.
20:06
You're killing this thing.
20:07
Look at this, you've done it.
20:08
Or another one that I have is mostly to
talk about how grateful that I am for
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the things that I have accomplished, and
the places that that has taken me to be.
20:14
So daily is good, but daily is not
a requirement, not a requirement at all.
20:20
Another question I see is
what advice do you have for
20:27
people who have trouble taking feedback?
20:30
All right, for me,
that's a really serious good question.
20:34
Seriously, good question.
20:39
As far as having trouble taking feedback,
20:41
what I tried to do I haven't
always been the best at it.
20:43
But I think that I've
gotten way better at it.
20:47
Part of it is that I need to make sure
that I try to remove my emotion from
20:49
the feedback, and try to pick out the part
that I can actually do something with.
20:53
Because sometimes, you need to find out
if the feedback is actually constructive,
20:59
or if it was just somebody
being overly critical.
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And it's hard to do that when you have
tied your emotions to the feedback, so
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l try really hard not to do that.
21:11
And then sit with the feedback.
21:13
You don't always have to
immediately respond to feedback.
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Take the feedback,
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sit with it for a little while,
whether that's an hour, or a day.
21:18
Before you get back to it,
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try to figure out if there is actually
any valuable things in there.
21:24
If there's nothing of value in there,
okay, thank you for your feedback.
21:27
Duly noted, and in my mind, dismissed.
21:31
But, I've had some really great feedback.
21:34
I love getting feedback on my talks,
as far as places where I can insert stats,
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because I love inserting stats when
I have them, or different images.
21:42
So I try to be open to that, and
open to those communications.
21:47
Let's see.
21:52
I have another question.
21:53
I am very new to coding, and
started with learning basics of Python.
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Do I continue with Python and
learn it very well, or
22:02
should I start learning HTML,
CSS, and JavaScript too?
22:05
I think that what you learn depends
on what it is that you want to do.
22:10
So if you have not yet
figured out what you would like to do,
22:17
as far as whether you want to
be a backend developer, or
22:21
a frontend developer,
because those paths do diverge.
22:25
Or a full stack developer, then first,
you should come up with what that is.
22:29
And then, for people that are doing
jobs that you think that you want to do,
22:35
reach out to them.
22:39
LinkedIn is a valuable, valuable network.
22:40
And Twitter is also a valuable,
valuable network.
22:42
Tech Twitter is amazing.
22:45
They're nerdy.
22:47
They're funny.
22:48
They tell bad jokes, but
they also know their stuff.
22:48
So you can ask questions, and
it's kinda like asking out into the ether.
22:51
But the answers come to you.
22:56
So if you ask somebody who is working for
a company that you wanna work for
22:58
in a role that interests you,
ask them what kinda tech they use.
23:02
And if you're not familiar with it, then
maybe that's the path that you go down.
23:06
Or if it's something that you
start to hear over and over,
23:10
then maybe that's the path
that you should go down.
23:13
I just happen to know that I like Python.
23:16
Python is my jam.
23:17
I like how easy it is.
23:19
I like that it has Django built in.
23:21
Django has a nice framework for it,
that has its own test suite built in.
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So I love me some Python and Django.
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But I also practice my HTML and CSS,
because if I'm going to do webby things,
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I need to know how to
read what's out there.
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So I don't know if I answered
your question, Lucas.
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But that's my answer.
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It really does depend.
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It really does depend.
23:45
I have another question.
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Did you work full-time while studying?
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And how did you navigate
stuff while you learned?
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So yes, when I attended my boot camp,
it was a full-time.
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Well, no, it was a part-time boot camp
that was Monday and Wednesday for
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three hours, and then every Saturday for
about four hours, I think.
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And I was going to work full-time,
and I had a one-year-old son at home.
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But I was in a very blessed position
to where I also had my husband
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helping me out, and
my mother-in-law was there to help me out.
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And so they were able to provide that
support that I needed while I was going
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through my classes.
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And with the navigation of things,
I'm a list person, so
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I need to write stuff down.
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Otherwise, it is likely
not going to get done.
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And if I write it down,
then I'm able to cross it off.
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And crossing stuff off a list,
I don't know what it is about it.
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You can do the to-do list app and
check the box.
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There's something about drawing a line on
paper does it for me, that does it for me.
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So that's how I kind of
kept myself focused.
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And as far as navigating,
it was a structured boot camp, so
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they had the steps for us to learn.
25:05
When I started my first tech job,
all of my learning was on the job.
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And so I had to get comfortable with
actually taking time in my day to do
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the tutorial, so
I could learn how to do my job.
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I've always felt like I
needed to learn after work.
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But they wanted me to
accomplish this task, so
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the learning part was built into the day.
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Let's see.
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My last question, is there ever a time
that imposter syndrome is worth
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listening to, such as in regards to
job qualifications or skill sets?
25:38
Ada, thank you so much for
asking this question.
25:43
This is a topic I'm extremely
passionate about for
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not just for beginners, but
for women in particular.
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We have a really hard
time submitting to jobs.
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And women of color have an even
harder time at this same skill.
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Imposter syndrome should be
completely disregarded when it
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comes to job applications.
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The reason I'm saying this is that women,
if we are not qualified for 97% or
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more of the skills listed, if we don't
feel that we have them, we do not apply.
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And we're effectively closing
the doors on ourselves.
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We're putting no into the company's mouth
before they even had a chance to look at
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our resumé, and look at our skills.
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Get us at an interview, and
see how much they like us,
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I think that so for me personally,
I call it my inner dudebro.
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So if I look at a job, and my inner
dudebro would apply for it with 45% of
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the skills, or 35% of the skills, because
it looked like a cool company to work.
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If my inner dudebro would do it,
I'm gonna go ahead and just submit and
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see what happens, because honestly,
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what is the worst thing that can
happen if you submit to a job?
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The worst thing that could happen,
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absolute worst thing is that
they don't respond at all.
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Second worst thing is that they
do respond, and that they say no,
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we don't think you're qualified.
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But you should let them tell you that.
27:18
You should let them tell you
that you're not qualified.
27:20
Don't put those words into their mouths.
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Let them see you, because you never know.
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Maybe you are rocking their socks off
at other skills that you can bring to
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the table, your transferable
skills from your previous life.
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So don't let them tell you no.
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I told you that my job hired me for
C# .NETWORK, and
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they knew that I went to school for
JavaScript.
27:41
They knew I did JavaScript,
and they hired me anyway.
27:45
Second job, they knew that I was a C#.NET
developer for a year and a half.
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They hired me for Python,
Django, Conklin, Angular, React,
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everything but C#, and I did the job.
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I learned the skills.
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New job, basically the same way.
28:02
They know I'd been doing Python and
Django for over a year.
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Yet, here I am, about to dumped
fully fledged into React, and
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into a proprietary language that I have no
idea how to use, but I'm gonna learn it.
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I've already started doing my tutorials
and asking all my questions, so
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please disregard it.
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Go for the job.
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If it looks remotely like you
might enjoy it, go for it.
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Go for it.
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Also, so
I think that's the end of our questions.
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Please, like I said, feel free to
reach out and talk to me on LinkedIn.
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Talk to me on Twitter.
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Sometimes it might take me a day
to respond, but reach out to me.
28:42
I am available.
28:46
I like answering questions.
28:47
I like following people.
28:48
I like seeing what you're up to,
and thank you for having me.
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