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Welcome to the Treehouse show.
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The Treehouse show is our weekly
conversation with the Treehouse community.
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[SOUND] In this episode,
we'll be talking with
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web developer and vlogger Chris Shawn.
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Chris is a Treehouse student who
studied with us for three months,
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and then got a job as a junior developer.
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Since then, Chris has vlogged about his
experiences on his own YouTube channel,
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where he shares his experiences,
conducts interviews with other devs, and
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encourages people to learn the code.
0:25
His show is fun to watch,
it's beautifully filmed, and
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it's keeps getting better each episode.
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You can learn all about his journey on
his YouTube channel, Real Chris Sean.
0:32
Where he releases almost daily
vlogs about his experience.
0:35
Chris am so
excited to have you on the show.
0:38
>> Thank you, thank you.
0:40
>> Thank you for being here.
0:41
>> No problem.
0:42
>> I was wondering,
0:43
cuz I have heard about this.
>> [LAUGH]
0:44
>> How did you get started in technology?
0:45
>> In technology?
0:47
I guess how it started was first of all
0:48
I've realized I need a better job.
>> Okay.
0:50
>> And I saw that my dead-end office job
0:53
wasn't enough,
because it was a dead-end office job.
0:55
And what happened is,
actually, I went on YouTube.
0:58
[LAUGH] And I saw this video where Bill
Gates on there, saying you don't need to
1:01
be smart to become a programmer.
>> Okay.
1:04
>> And when I realized then, I'm like wow.
1:06
I don't think that I'm that smart, but
if I can be a programmer, why not try it.
1:08
And just when I realized it,
I can actually do it.
1:11
When you look at the world's expectations,
you need to have a degree to be
1:16
a programmer, what developer,
whatever it is.
1:19
And realizing you don't need a degree,
1:21
it just change my whole world around.
>> Okay.
1:22
>> And that's when I went on Google and
1:24
type in on how to code, and you popped up.
1:26
[LAUGH]
>> [LAUGH]
1:29
>> Yeah.
1:30
>> Cool, well,
1:32
I wanna correct something there,
I do think that you're smart.
1:32
>> [LAUGH]
1:35
>> I've been watching your show,
1:35
it's great, it's great.
1:36
It's totally, I love how it's growing,
watching it grow.
1:38
How did you get started in vlogging?
1:40
It's called vlogging, right?
>> Yeah.
1:43
>> Video logging?
1:44
>> Video logging,
1:45
blogging with video instead of typing.
1:46
I have very bad spelling, so
I'm very thankful for video.
1:48
How I got in was, actually,
I used to ask a lot of my questions
1:51
on a web form on quora.com and what-
>> Quora?
1:57
>> Yeah, on Quora.
2:01
I'm sure you're probably familiar with it.
>> Yeah,
2:02
it's awesome.
>> And
2:04
after I became a developer in three months
with you guys, I went on quora.com and
2:04
I shared my story and it went viral
to about I think now it's a 1.3,
2:09
1.4 million views,
>> Wow.
2:14
>> Yeah, and I realized wow.
2:16
Wait, the people liking about my
story just through the written word,
2:17
what about video?
>> Sure.
2:21
>> And so what I did is I went to
2:23
this college and I saw really nice brick
wall, something like this actually for
2:24
red bricks, and I thought maybe I
could just share my story there.
2:28
And I gave my friend my Note 7,
2:31
it didn't explode at that time.
>> [LAUGH]
2:32
>> [LAUGH] My Note 7.
2:34
I gave him my phone and
2:35
I just shared my story.
>> That's the one at the front of your
2:37
vog.
>> Yes, with a green shirt.
2:40
I look like a real nerd on that video.
2:42
And I just shared my story,
and I didn't know how to edit.
2:45
The font I used was horrible.
2:48
The music was horrible.
2:49
The music in the background was horrible,
you could barely hear me.
2:50
But for some reason that video
got like about 200,000 views now.
2:53
And that kind of just jump
started my career on YouTube.
2:57
>> Well, I think it's probably
3:00
the message, right?
>> Yeah, it was the message, yes.
3:01
>> I think it's the passion that you put
3:02
in, and you put in so
much passion in your work.
3:04
>> [LAUGH] Thank you, thank you.
3:05
>> It's really nice, and
3:06
I appreciate that.
3:07
I think it's really cool.
3:07
I love how you do The driving scenes in
3:08
the beginning?
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>> [LAUGH]
>> I
3:11
thought that was so cool.
>> Man.
3:12
I hope the police never see that video.
3:13
[LAUGH]
>> [LAUGH]
3:14
>> Or those videos.
3:15
>> But with that though,
3:16
how did you learn how to do that?
>> Just how do I film while driving?
3:18
>> Well, how do you film?
3:22
I mean, that was so professional.
3:23
When you see the filming.
>> Thank you.
3:25
>> How did you learn how to do that?
3:27
>> I think I just,
3:27
if you look at my earlier videos,
it's really bad.
3:28
Before, actually with my phone
here I would just like drive and
3:31
just click record and
I even look at the screen.
3:35
I think it's just through trial and error.
3:38
Then I would see a lot,
I look at really big vloggers and
3:41
I see how they do the videos,
because I want my channel to grow.
3:43
And I saw they would have their own
videographer following them everywhere.
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But I can't afford that.
3:50
[LAUGH]
>> [LAUGH]
3:51
>> I can't afford that,
3:53
even though I'm a programmer now.
3:53
And so, I just learned to carry
my heavy camera, very heavy.
3:54
My right arm is stronger now,
because of my camera.
3:58
And I would just try to balance it out
while filming, and yeah just trial and
4:02
error.
>> Okay.
4:06
>> I just tried to match like the very top
4:07
notch vloggers, and I'm not saying that
my channels is as good as theirs when I
4:09
think quality wise in regards just to edit
that point put it in every film is kind of
4:13
catching up, I hope.
>> Yeah, I've seen it improve over time.
4:18
I mean, I tune into it and
it's awesome to watch you grow there.
4:23
And I'm sure that it's probably
similar to coding that way, right?
4:26
>> Yeah, yeah,
4:29
very similar to coding, actually.
4:30
What's really cool is that, actually, I
have a lot of friends who went to USC and
4:32
did videography.
>> Okay.
4:35
>> And they don't edit as much as I do,
4:37
because I do daily vlogs.
>> Right.
4:38
>> So I upload a video maybe five or
4:40
six days a week.
4:42
If I feel lazy, I'll do a live video.
4:43
[LAUGH]
>> Okay.
4:44
>> That's why I don't like
4:45
doing live videos too much,
because I feel I'm not putting as much
4:46
effort.
>> Got you.
4:48
>> And I feel like I'm cheating all
4:49
the subscribers.
4:50
But when I compare my videos
to my actual friends,
4:52
they would ask me how did I
learn to edit the way I did.
4:55
And they would ask did I go to
school anywhere, and I would say no.
4:58
I have a YouTube channel and I just
edit everyday, and I practice everyday.
5:01
I realize that's very similar
to how I learned in programming.
5:04
And that's how I became a programmer in
three months, is that the way you become
5:09
a good programmer isn't
just doing it once a week,
5:12
twice a week, but
it's really just being consistent.
5:15
And if you really want this,
if you want your life to change,
5:17
if you are not happy in your situation
because I lived paycheck to paycheck.
5:20
I lived in my car for
three months actually.
5:24
>> Wow.
5:26
>> Yeah, and
5:26
my determination was to change my life and
just do something about it.
5:27
And so, if someone has a determination to
change a life and become something that no
5:31
one thought they could ever be, then just
putting the effort every single day.
5:35
One, two, three hours whatever you can.
5:39
If you put in the effort everyday,
5:42
you'll become better.
>> Wow.
5:43
>> Because what I was able to see with my
5:44
friends, not in a prideful way,
but I mean they said it too.
5:46
They were surprised that my editing skills
and filming skills was on par with them
5:49
too, because I do it so much.
>> Right.
5:53
>> Now I do have people
5:56
that tell me to stop doing
things too like comments.
5:57
Subscribers say,
Chris stop doing that on your videos.
5:59
But yeah, just hard effort and
consistency.
6:02
>> Yeah, and like seady practice?
6:04
>> Yeah, there you go.
6:05
[LAUGH]
>> Awesome, awesome.
6:05
I have a question that
I'm always wondering.
6:09
Is there money in this?
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Like how are you doing this?
6:13
You're getting subscribers, how are you?
>> So
6:14
YouTube doesn't really pay well.
>> Okay.
6:18
>> But I mean, I don't really do it for
6:21
the money, because you guys help
me get the job just through your
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courses.
>> Right.
6:26
>> So I get paid pretty well now, so
6:27
I'm not money hungry
when it comes to YouTube.
6:28
>> Okay.
6:30
>> And when I started my channel,
6:32
my first video, I realized it's
getting a lot of views so fast.
6:33
And I was thinking,
maybe I can make some money off of it.
6:37
And you guys actually have a referral
service, this just a Treehouse, right?
6:40
Where if you recommend five people,
you don't have to pay for
6:44
the subscription.
>> Cool.
6:46
>> Well, I don't have to pay for
6:47
that after three months.
>> Right.
6:49
>> Now, I think I have a 100 people under
6:50
my fro list on Treehouse, and I've never
had pay for Treehouse ever again for
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the last two years or so.
>> Nice.
6:56
>> But I thought,
6:58
maybe you guys have an affiliate program.
>> Right.
6:59
>> And I Googled it, Google,
7:01
go to Treehouse affiliate program.
7:03
And you guys actually have affiliate
program, and it's actually paying for
7:05
all my equipment on YouTube.
7:09
That's the reason I'm able to film what
I do now, because of that program.
7:10
>> Wow, how does that work?
7:13
You're telling me about a program.
>> [LAUGH]
7:15
>> [LAUGH] How does that work?
7:18
>> Well, I believe it's when someone signs
7:20
up, just sign up, for
a seven day free trial, I get about $3 or
7:23
something like that.
>> Wow.
7:27
>> Yeah, now if they sign up for
7:29
the full membership,
if they sign up, for example,
7:31
a $25 per month membership program,
I get half of that.
7:34
I get $12.50 off that subscription.
>> Nice.
7:37
>> Yeah, which is nice.
7:41
>> Wow.
7:42
>> Or when someone did a $50 membership,
7:42
I get 25 bucks.
>> Wow.
7:44
>> And with my video kind of going viral
7:45
at that time, it was very nice.
>> Yeah, I bet.
7:47
>> Of all the videos I posted,
7:49
and yeah, it was nice.
>> Yeah, so that drone,
7:51
Dexter the drone.
>> Yes.
7:53
>> Yeah.
7:55
>> Yes, yes, that's all paid off.
7:55
Yeah technically,
7:57
I'm not sponsored by EUS.
>> Yeah, yeah.
7:57
[LAUGH]
>> [LAUGH] But technically,
7:59
you guys paid for that so-
>> Wow, that's awesome.
8:00
>> Thank you Treehouse.
8:01
[LAUGH]
>> That's awesome.
8:02
Thank you for sharing your
message about learning the code.
8:03
>> [LAUGH]
8:06
>> People that it's available,
8:07
that you could get to do this.
8:08
That's cool, and now I guess, vlogging,
8:09
that's encouraging to people who
are thinking about doing this.
8:11
Would you recommend doing it?
>> I mean,
8:14
honestly, yeah.
>> Yeah?
8:16
>> Vlogging is so easy.
8:17
I mean, a lot of people,
8:20
actually I have worked with people
who would Internet a company.
8:21
And I told them, hey,
bro my channel is blowing up.
8:26
You need to start vlogging now,
and I'll recommend you and
8:30
your channel will blow up too but
he never did it.
8:32
Because he would always say,
Chris I don't have the camera you have.
8:34
I don't have the equipment you have.
8:37
I don't have the John you have.
8:38
I don't have the life you have.
8:39
I tell him, I had the exact same life as
you and I started off with just my iPhone.
8:40
And so, really I think just
starting a vlogging channel or
8:45
a YouTube channel talking about code
is one of the best ways to really push
8:49
yourself to become a better programmer,
because you're
8:52
kept accountable by your subscribers.
>> Right.
8:56
>> Because my subscribers will be able to
8:58
tell if I'm getting better or
8:59
not by the content that I'm pushing out.
>> Right.
9:00
>> And so I think it's a good
9:03
way to keep yourself accountable and
it's so easy.
9:05
You just take out your phone and
9:08
you just talk to it.
9:09
>> Yeah.
>> Make sure you smile.
9:10
>> Yeah.
9:11
>> And don't make a channel name too long.
9:11
>> Right.
9:14
>> And honestly, I feel like
9:15
I got a really nice raise, not from my
company, but just from my own side hustle,
9:16
I guess you could say.
>> Yeah, for sure.
9:20
I think you have that in you, right?
9:23
So you're like, hey,
I wanna learn how to code.
9:25
I've learned how to code, here got a job.
9:27
And I wanna learn how to vlog,
here I am editing these gorgeous videos,
9:29
things like motivational videos,
cause your subscribers are growing too,
9:31
right?
>> Yes.
9:35
>> That's awesome.
9:35
You're coding, you're vlogging,
how do you stay motivated?
9:36
Cuz you're vlogging almost every day.
>> Yes.
9:40
>> How do you stay motivated?
9:42
What's the trick?
>> How do I stay motivated?
9:43
I guess, you can just think about
it as a single dad who has to
9:46
take care of his family.
9:49
How does a single dad work two or
three jobs everyday.
9:50
Even when he's exhausted or
sick, he can't call in sick.
9:54
Why?
9:56
Because he has to take
care of his children.
9:57
While for me, I don't have any kids yet,
I'm not married yet.
9:59
Just so you know, there's nothing on my
10:02
finger.
>> Okay.
10:03
>> I'm single, [LAUGH] but.
10:04
I think for me is my motivation is
I don't wanna go back to the life I
10:07
had.
>> Got you.
10:10
>> I remember when my pay checks were,
10:11
I didn't even have enough to eat food,
10:13
I only had enough to pay my phone and
to pay for rent.
10:15
And then I would go after some friends and
they would let me borrow money and
10:17
I could never pay them back.
10:21
And just thinking of where I came from or
where I want to be,
10:22
that motivates me every single day.
>> Okay.
10:26
>> Like how can I
10:28
upload a vlog every single day?
10:29
I have a full time job.
10:30
I do a lot of things with church.
10:31
I have a life.
10:32
I still have to edit.
10:33
And I wanna learn
10:34
code because I wanna keep my job.
>> Right.
10:35
>> How do you do that is just how bad do
10:37
you want your life to change.
10:38
And then one thing I did realize is that
my future, my life it's on my hands.
10:40
Whether my life becomes
better if it improves or
10:47
not is all on me not on anyone else.
10:49
And when I come into that reality
knowing that my life is on my hands,
10:52
my future is on my hands, am taking care
of my family is really independent on what
10:55
am able to do now,
that changes my mindset and everything.
10:59
That's why I'm able to vlog everyday,
even though I don't want to,
11:02
edit late until three in the morning and
still go to work at six in the morning.
11:05
And people would constantly tell me,
Chris you're crazy, you need rest.
11:09
But then I would tell them because
I didn't rest, I'm where I am now.
11:12
And so, how bad do you really want it?
11:16
And I think that's one of
the greatest motivations.
11:17
And also one last thing is how
many lives you get to live?
11:19
You only have one life.
11:22
If you have one life
what will you do with it?
11:23
Just play video games all day or
11:25
make video games with the code
that you're able to write?
11:27
Which one's better?
11:30
Having a better life and being able to
do things you never thought possible or
11:31
just dreaming and
11:35
hoping I wish I could have done that?
>> Wow.
11:36
>> And so
11:38
I think that's why I'm still able to
do what I'm able to do consistently.
11:38
>> That's amazing, that's amazing man.
11:42
>> Thank you.
11:43
>> What advice do you have for
11:45
people who are just beginning to code,
11:47
learning to code?
>> For
11:49
people who are just beginning to code?
>> Mm-hm.
11:51
>> I think one good thing to note is that
11:54
you will not learn right it away.
>> Okay.
11:57
>> It takes
12:02
time.
>> Sure.
12:02
>> Even though I became a programmer in
12:03
three months,
I was still not good at HTML,
12:04
CSS, JavaScript was
extremely foreign to me.
12:07
I had no idea what to write.
12:10
But I think it's just to understand is
that you will not get it right away.
12:12
>> Yeah, you know what,
12:15
that's really good advice.
12:16
And I think, why don't we have you
practice being the teacher for a second?
12:18
Would that be cool,
would you like to do that?
12:21
>> Me be a teacher at Treehouse just for
12:23
a second?
>> Yeah, just for
12:25
a second.
>> For instance-
12:25
>> [CROSSTALK] Up in front of the camera.
12:26
>> That's a dream come true.
12:27
>> Yeah, let's do
12:27
it?
>> Let's do
12:28
it.
>> Okay.
12:29
>> So the way this works This camera here,
12:29
this is everybody, right?
>> Yeah.
12:32
>> When you talk this.
12:34
When you talk to this you're thinking
you're talking to everybody.
12:34
And then you can turn and you can talk to
very specifically this student right here.
12:36
You see this student right there?
>> Yes.
12:40
>> That's the advice that you
12:41
want to get there.
12:42
I was thinking.
>> So
12:43
when I talk about code look here.
>> Yeah, when you want to go a little bit
12:43
deeper you can talk here and then get
a little bit deeper here, just turn.
12:46
That's just something
that you can use there.
12:49
I was thinking that you could talk about
what you just said about knowing that
12:50
you would be successful if this happened.
>> okay, all right now.
12:56
>> Any advice about how to follow that.
13:01
Sound good?
>> Advice on how to
13:03
like?
>> Follow that
13:05
dream.
>> Okay.
13:06
>> How do you do it?
13:07
Okay.
>> Because you are living your dream
13:08
right now.
>> Here we go, we're going to slate this.
13:09
This is real Chris Sean advice, take one.
>> What's really crazy is that
13:12
when I started my YouTube channel,
which was about like a year and
13:17
two months ago, when I decided to
document my life, my journey as a junior
13:21
web developer one thing I knew that
would really describe or determine
13:26
that my channel was doing well was if
Treehouse ever flew me out here to code.
13:31
Not code, sorry can I do it again?
>> Yeah.
13:36
>> Okay, this is different than
13:39
having a camera right here.
13:42
[LAUGH]
>> [LAUGH]
13:44
>> When I started my YouTube channel
13:45
a year and two months ago, I never thought
that I would be here at Treehouse.
13:47
The reason I say that is because one thing
that I thought would really determine that
13:51
my channel was doing well was if Treehouse
ever flew me out here to Portland,
13:56
Oregon to be at the headquarters.
14:00
Why wouldn't I ever want to vlog at
the one place I learn how to code?
14:01
Now, for some reason, out of nowhere,
what happened Treehouse contacted me.
14:06
But why?
14:11
Simply because I decided to do what I love
which is number one, code, number two,
14:12
make videos, number three,
make a difference in the world.
14:16
And one better way to do that then to talk
about code and vlog at the same time and
14:19
work at Treehouse.
14:23
But other than that though, is just about
just thinking about what you need to do
14:24
because the reason I got here today wasn't
just because I dreamed of it, wasn't just
14:28
because I hoped, it wasn't just because
I hoped that opportunity would come up.
14:32
But it was because I decided
to do something about that.
14:36
Is when you finally make a decision to
make that first step, to click that button
14:40
to finally think of okay, what can I
do to make a difference in my life?
14:44
When you make that first step
is when you finally become or
14:48
when you finally get one step
closer to where you wanna be.
14:51
And when I think about it,
if I never signed up for Treehouse,
14:53
if I never clicked upload on my video,
if I never tried to put my life out
14:57
there in the public and be so open to
who I am, then I wouldn't be here today.
15:02
In Portland, Oregon eating vegan friendly
food and meeting with even a founder and
15:07
fun staff for Treehouse, but because
I decided to take a risk, I'm here.
15:11
And so if you wanna do that,
15:15
if you wanna make a difference in your
life, why not make that first step, why
15:17
not try to make that change and just do it
>> I think that you'll probably be pretty
15:20
good to answering this question.
15:24
On our forum a lot of times
what happens is people,
15:26
you start begin to code, you love it,
you fall in love with it ,you
15:29
get to this point where you reach
this hurdle and it gets hard.
15:34
Sometimes it gets hard, it gets very, very
challenging and you feel like you can't do
15:38
it anymore, right?
>> Yes, mm-hm.
15:42
>> You know what I'm talking about?
15:44
>> Right, I know exactly.
15:44
>> Everybody hits it, and
15:45
that's the thing.
15:46
Everybody hits it.
15:46
What kind of advice would you
give to that person hitting that,
15:50
I don't know if I can do this?
>> Yeah, no, definitely.
15:52
I felt that with JavaScript.
15:55
You have to understand,
15:56
when I became a web developer after
three months I was blown away.
15:58
It was my first job interview,
the first job I ever applied to.
16:02
Came into an interview on
Saturday when they were closed,
16:05
I thought they were sketchy.
16:07
And on the spot,
right after the interview,
16:08
I showed him my really ugly portfolio,
he said we will hire you, and
16:10
they doubled my salary, and
now I'm just like, what's going on?
16:13
And so after three months I'm just
doing HTML and CSS but at my company,
16:17
I had to do really well in JavaScript.
16:20
But I think JavaScript, for
front-end developers, or
16:23
just anyone in general,
is kind of like once
16:26
you get to the JavaScript is when everyone
starts to feel like, I wanna quit, why?
16:29
Because JavaScript is the first
programming language people will get to.
16:33
HTML, CSS are markup of languages,
but a programming language is totally
16:37
different.
>> Sure.
16:40
>> But I think,
16:41
and I wanted to give up, I was paranoid.
16:42
My gosh, they're going let me go,
they're going to let me go.
16:45
And I felt that for the entire year.
16:47
>> Wow.
>> Guess what?
16:48
They love me and
they need me there, and yeah,
16:49
there were times when I shouldn't at
the company but they're keeping me there
16:52
because I can do what I do now.
>> Right.
16:56
>> But I think
16:58
one thing to understand is
that everyone feels that way.
16:59
Sure.
>> You have to understand Michael Jordan
17:01
felt that with basket ball,
Kobe Bryant felt that with basketball,
17:03
I don't know mention sports,
I only like basketball [LAUGH].
17:06
But even professional athletes,
17:10
they weren't always professional athletes.
>> Right.
17:11
>> They had to go through
17:13
college.
>> Yeah.
17:14
>> And it's not easy to just get into
17:15
a college to play basketball,
you have to do really well in high school.
17:17
You have to understand what
people felt through high school,
17:21
through middle school, elementary school.
17:23
Through their dads giving them so
much pressure.
17:24
You need to do well, you need to do well.
>> Right.
17:27
>> But no one does
17:28
it well in the beginning.
17:29
It depends on, again, how bad you want it.
>> Right.
17:30
>> And you have to understand then that
17:33
when it comes to programming,
even for you it wasn't always easy.
17:34
>> Right, no, for sure, absolutely.
17:38
>> Everyone feels like they wanna give up.
17:39
But then at the end of the day,
it depends on how bad you want it.
17:40
And you can get through it,
it just takes time.
17:43
Spanish for me was hard, I hated Spanish.
17:45
I love Mexican food,
I love Spanish food, I love everything.
17:48
But, again, at the end of the day,
it's how bad you want it.
17:52
It's not supposed to be easy,
nothing good in life ever comes easy.
17:55
Bill Gates didn't get
to where he was easily.
17:59
>> Right.
18:02
>> The founder of Apple didn't get
18:03
to where, even you didn't
get to where you are easily.
18:04
>> Right, yeah.
18:06
>> But it's not supposed to be easy.
18:06
But that what makes the end goal tastes so
18:08
much more sweet at the end of the day.
>> So
18:10
focus on that?
>> Yes.
18:11
>> On the end goal
18:13
as you're working through it.
18:13
>> Exactly.
>> Great
18:14
advice.
>> Thank
18:15
you.
>> Thanks.
18:15
>> Chris, you're an open book
18:16
on your vlog.
18:18
It feels like I know so
much about you just by watching it,
18:19
but I know that there's something
that you haven't shared.
18:22
What is that thing that people who
are going to be watching your vlog
18:25
don't know about you?
>> Man, well, as you probably know, or
18:29
at least on my social media,
18:33
my name on Instagram is @RealChrisSean.
>> Mm-hm.
18:34
>> On Twitter it's RealChrisSean,
18:37
on Facebook it's Real Chris Sean.
18:39
And some people would think the reason
I put Real Chris Sean is because
18:41
Chris Sean's already taken, which is true.
18:44
[LAUGH] Whoever's out there,
I'm watching you, Chris Sean.
18:45
>> [LAUGH]
18:48
>> But the reason I put Real Chris Sean
18:49
is because my actual people I looked
up to when I was growing up was
18:51
Eminem.
>> Okay.
18:55
>> Yeah, so believe or not,
18:56
I've been rapping since I was 13,
and that's 17 years ago, I think.
18:58
>> So wait, so
19:02
that's the real Slim Shady?
>> Real Slim Shady.
19:03
>> You're like the Real Chris Sean?
19:05
>> I'm like the Real Chris Sean.
19:06
There's no other Chris Sean out there,
19:08
it's me.
>> Please stand up.
19:09
>> Yes, yes [LAUGH].
19:11
So I put Real Chris Sean because my dream
growing up was actually to be a writer,
19:13
a rapper.
>> A rapper?
19:18
>> Yes, so I have some music out there.
19:20
It's gone, no one can find it
unless I link in the description
19:21
below on my video.
>> Okay.
19:24
[LAUGH]
>> But yeah, so
19:25
it's just imitating Real Slim Shady
like Real Chris Sean.
19:27
And that's why it's Real Chris Sean.
19:30
>> Wow.
>> Yeah.
19:31
[LAUGH]
>> Man, I would love to get a little
19:33
freestyle session.
>> [LAUGH]
19:36
>> Could you do it right now?
19:37
Do you think you could
freestyle right now?
19:38
>> Right now?
19:40
Yep, what do I freestyle about?
>> I don't know,
19:42
let's do some code stuff.
>> Code stuff?
19:44
>> Php.
19:46
>> Php?
19:47
>> That seems
19:48
rhymy.
19:48
>> Yeah.
>> Okay, let's do it.
19:49
>> Php, a lot of people like to see me,
19:50
they think I'm crazy, why?
19:53
I chose JavaScript, Angular, and PHP.
19:55
I don't care if a lot of people
wanna hate me, but lately,
19:58
I'm thinking I can do it not maybe.
20:01
So I'll talk about it, another time.
20:03
[LAUGH]
>> [APPLAUSE]
20:05
>> [LAUGH]
20:09
>> Wow, vlogger, coder,
20:14
rapper, what don't you do?
>> Cook.
20:16
[LAUGH]
20:19
[MUSIC]
20:21
>> Thanks for watching the Treehouse show.
20:25
To get in touch with the show,
reach out to me on Twitter or
20:27
email us at show@teamtreehouse.com.
20:29
I'm gonna go drive around in my car and
listen to motivational pop music.
20:32
He makes traffic so appealing.
20:35
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